Monday, April 16, 2012

AI mods in multiplayer

Just a quick question, when playing in a multiplayer game, do all players need to have the exact same AI mods installed? For example, if I have the Duncane AI mod installed and the other player doesn't, will it crash if we try to play a game with an AI present?|||Yes all players need the mod installed otherwise you will desync.



Its an issue with mods to the AI not being compatible with the mod manager so we cant fix it.|||Not related to AI mods, but I have a question. In a multiplayer game with human and AI players, which computer is responsible for calculating AI? Is it the host, or the most powerful computer, or is the load shared somehow? I ask this because when playing with a friend, I want to make sure that the most powerful computer has the greatest share of responsibility for calculating the AI. If there are 2 humans and 1 AI, does only 1 computer handle the AI? With 2 humans and 2 AI, does each computer handle 1 AI?|||Falcrack....



The AI is run on ALL machines in the game and the synced to ensure no one is cheating. This means the lowest spec machine will limit the game speed for all the other PC's.|||Considering that, which of the following CPU's would be the bottleneck then:



Intel E6750 with 2GB ram

Intel E6850 with 2GB ram

Intel E8400 with 4GB ram

Intel Q6600 with 2GB ram

Intel Q6600 with 4GB ram





In general, this is the setup we usually play with. Im guessing the E6750 with 2GB ram is the bottleneck in this when we play with friends. Usually the simspeed goes down after some 15-20 minutes, even with Sorians mod (although probably not the latest version).



Would upgrading the 2GB to 4GB systems help? Would running Windows XP 64bit on all machines help or would Vista 64bit on all machines run equal?



A lot of questions but i'm trying to pin down the one who causes the other computers to slow down :)



Any help would be appreciated ... (and sorry for the topic hijack).|||You can check who is causing the slowdown with the Network Stats. Type ren_ShowNetworkStats into the console and look at the "maxsp" column.|||I'd like to note that a motherboard could be the bottleneck. If a processor is unable to put through the bandwidth it needs it could clog up.



Say a processor runs at 1333 FSB, and the motherboard supports only 1000, then that could be a factor.



So a slower CPU could run the game faster than a faster CPU, depending on the motherboard.



An expensive motherboard definitely doesn't guarantee your PC to be faster though ;)|||Well thats definately not the problem :)



We all have Asus P5K motherboards (in different versions) but all with the Intel P35 chipset so that shouldn't be a problem.



For some reason, the console doesnt work for me. When I try to type anything in it, it disappears immediately.



I then copied the line ren_ShowNetworkStats into it and pressed Enter and it ... disappeared, without showing any columns of any kind. I'll try asking my friends to enter it into the console but so far I haven't been able to find the bottleneck :)



Playing without CPU's, ofcourse, poses no problems at all and gamespeed remains normal.|||My friends cant use the console either. Every keypress made in there makes the console disappear again.



So are there any options here to find who or which computer is causing the slowdown?|||download console++



it fix the problem of a disappearing console, but you can tell it to start a match with ren_ShowNetworkStats and any other console command of your choosing.



[BTW:] it's on The Vault -- content:"3110 console++ 1.01"|||Make sure you have cheats enabled otherwise I dont think the console works?|||duncane|||I thought I had something similar once ... if you type a cheating command... say SetArmyFocus ... without the cheats enabled... doesnt the console disappear?



Anyway...

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